Sunday, September 30, 2012
Saturday, September 29, 2012
The Prophecy Club with Tom Deckard 10- ends with constantine mother change the sabbath from saturday to sunday constantine mother change the sabbath from saturday to sunday
who changed the saturday worship
THEY CHANGED THE SABBATH TO SUNDAY There is no point of greater distinction between the reign of law and of grace then the observance of the seventh day and the first day of the week. Each represent a different dispensation and how God related to man.There are many Sabbatarian groups that trace this event to Constantine in 321 A.D. and the council of Laodicea held in 364 A.D. In changing the Sabbath day of worship to Sunday. In the 4th cent. Sunday was declared to be the day of rest and worship. This does not mean Constantine changed the Sabbath day to Sunday, the Sabbath is still Saturday. On the contrary there is much historical evidence to show Sunday worship was a universal practice of all the church’s outside the land of Israel by the beginning of the 2nd century. While there was a dispute between the Roman Catholic and eastern church hundreds of years later, on which day to worship there certainly was a repulsion to keep anything that was related to Judaism. While there may be a grain of truth in some of the arguments their is much exaggeration and even more extremism in changing the historical facts. Some go as far as to say Sunday is the day of the sun (worship ) so that is what Christians are doing they are practicing paganism. That early Christianity was mixed with pagan practices that led to the adoption of Sunday worship. This kind of rhetoric appeals to ignorance. Those who motivate others with guilt say you must worship on Saturday know this word is named after the Roman god Saturn. Like every day of the week it has a reference to a pagan name since many of these words come from that time period. The point is we don’t worship the day or the name of that day which would be idolatry. We worship the maker of that day and every day. God made all the days of the week and does not expect to be worshipped on only one day. |
Why is there so much controversy on this one Commandment, and why do Christians have so many different reasons to why they disobey it? If the Sabbath was moved to Sunday or abolished, there should be one clear reason why that everyone agrees on, but no so!
Some say it is Ten Commandments and some say it is nine and others say all Ten Commandments are gone. And if that isn't enough contradiction, some say the Sabbath was moved to Sunday in the Bible, and yet those arguing this fallacy do not keep the Sabbath as God Commanded anyway. There is not doubt that something is very wrong here and when you have so much confusion, you know that Satan has to be behind it.
God informed us that Satan wanted to be worshipped like the most high (Isaiah 14:12-14) and that the day of worship of God is the Seventh Day being Saturday. So Satan set out to do two things. One was to rob God of the worship He desired on His Holy day that He instituted at creation, and two, to institute his own day of worship in place of God's day of worship by setting up his own counterfeit Christian Church.
Satan used idolatrous sun worship from Babylonian paganism to begin implementing his plan that was despised by God. Babylon was the seat of Satan worship until its fall to the Medes and the Persians in 539 BC. At this time the Babylonian pagan priests left Babylon and went to Pergamos and some to Alexandria. So for many centuries after the fall of Babylon, Pergamos became the new seat of Satan (Revelation 2:12-13). Opportunity arose around 129 B.C. for the priests to leave Pergamos and go to Rome and thus Rome became the final seat of Satan and where he set up his church. Hence sun worship, which was practised on Sunday, was most prevalent in Alexandria and Rome by the time of Christ. It is not a coincidence that Sun-day worship in the Church began in these exact same two locations that sun worship went! This also proves the origin of Sunday worship in the Church.
Church historian Socrates Scholasticus (5th century) wrote:
And while on this topic, scripture reveals the Sabbath to be the Lord's Day yet Lucium who was an early church historian wrote that it was in the fourth century when Christians begun calling Sunday the Lord's Day and of course against the will of God.
In 330 A.D., Constantine moved his capital from Rome to Constantinople preparing the way for the Roman Catholic Popes to reign in Rome as the successors of Constantine. As the Roman Church grew in power, it opposed Sabbath observance in favour of Sunday sacredness and made the day change official in the Council of Laodicea (A.D. 363-364). So Constantine’s law resulted in the final change of the Sabbath to Sunday.
Around 364 AD, the Roman Catholic Church outlawed resting on the Sabbath in the Council of Laodicea when they decreed 59 Canon laws. Here is the final law.
Canon XXIX: “Christians must not judaize by resting on the Sabbath, but must work on that day, rather honouring the Lord’s Day; and, if they can, resting then as Christians. But if any shall be found to be judaizers, let them be anathema from Christ.” (Percival Translation).
While resting on the Sabbath was outlawed in favour of resting on Sunday as per Constantine’s Sunday Law, Cannon law 16 was also issued by the Bishops in the Council of Laodicea (A.D. 363-364) that confirms that Christians were in fact still worshipping on the Sabbath.
Canon XVI “The Gospels are to be read on the Sabbath [i.e. Saturday], with the other Scriptures.”
The fact that the council of Laodicea found it necessary to deal with this issue verifies that more than 330 years after the cross that there were many Christians who were still observing the Sabbath according to the Commandment.
Four hundred years after the death of Christ and one hundred years after Constantine’s linking of Church and State by his Sunday law edict, Rome and Alexandria were the only places in the world where many Christians kept only Sunday and not the true Sabbath. Why? Because this is where the pagan practices of Babylon landed after it was conquered. And what was the dominant pagan practice that the Babylonian priests brought with them? Sun worship which was done on Sun-day! See the history of Sunday worship for more.
So one can understand why Rome and Alexandria did not bother to keep the true Sabbath as they had not done so for 200 years. Throughout the entire history of the changeover from Sabbath to Sunday, Rome and Alexandria had worked together. Alexandria provided the philosophical reasons for the changes and Rome provided the decrees and anathemas. Constantine’s help was given only to the worldly Church leaders at Rome and those Christians that resisted the errors that were being introduced into the Church met with his opposition. “Unite with the bishop of Rome or be destroyed,” was Constantine’s position.
Friday, September 28, 2012
patrick j miron - How many rules to be a catholic---All prophecy of scripture is a matter of one's own interpretation
ok here we go
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John 3:[15] that whoever believes in him may have eternal life.????"
[16] For God so loved the world that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life.
[17] For God sent the Son into the world, not to condemn the world, but that the world might be saved through him.
[18] He who believes in him is not condemned; he who does not believe is condemned already,
[SAME as belief in Christ real Presence]
All prophecy of scripture is a matter of one's own interpretation, by patrick j miron
2nd. Peter 1: 16-21 “You will do well to pay attention to this as to a lamp shining in a dark place, until the day dawns and the morning star rises in your hearts.
First of all you must understand this, that no prophecy of scripture is a matter of one's own interpretation,
because no prophecy ever came by the impulse of man, but men moved by the Holy Spirit spoke from God.”
because he has not believed in the name of the only Son of God.
[19] And this is the judgment, that the light has come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. [20] For every one who does evil hates the light, and does not come to the light, lest his deeds should be exposed.
[21] But he who does what is true comes to the light, that it may be clearly seen that his deeds have been wrought in God … [35] the Father loves the Son, and has given all things into his hand.
[36] He who believes in the Son has eternal life; he who does not obey the Son shall not see life, but the wrath of God rests upon him.”
[ALL OF THIS IS FROM THE SAME AUTHOR, CHAPTER AND BOOK]
Nevertheless, knowing that a man is not justified by legal observance [as a FYI: this actually refers back to the 613 additions to the original 10 commandments] but by faith in Jesus Christ… for by works of “the law” no one shall be justified. Gal. 2:16
Repent of your sins because Christ died on the cross to pay the penalty for them. Not just Original sin; but all sins. The Apostle John wrote the blood of his son Jesus cleanses us from all sin. 1st. John 1:7
1st. John 1: 5-10 “This is the message we have heard from him and proclaim to you, that God is light and in him is no darkness at all. If we say we have fellowship with him while we walk in darkness, we lie and do not live according to the truth; but if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus his Son cleanses us from all sin. If we say we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just, and will forgive our sins and cleanse us from all unrighteousness. If we say we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.” … and what does this mean? John 20: 21-23 “Jesus said to them again, "Peace be with you. As the Father has sent me, even so I send you." And when he had said this, he breathed on them, and said to them, "Receive the Holy Spirit. [23] If you forgive the sins of any, they are forgiven; if you retain the sins of any, they are retained."
God says it is Christ who saves [we Catholics are in COMPLETE agreement with this statement]. Don’t allow yourself to be sidetracked either by people who think they can be saved by works [alone assumed here?] or by the Catholic Churches claim that they dispense salvation. [Jesus Himself in Person Gave the “key to Heavenly access to ONLY Peter and through Peter, to the CC… Matt. 16] The Church says the sacrament of Penance is necessary for salvation…[EXCUSE Me Thomas; but my friend, its Christ HIMSELF [John 20:19-23] who is Commanding it; the CC is just following God’s DIRECT - Order] … There in no offense, NO SIN, no matter how serious that Catholic Priest who ARE ACTING With, Through, In AND for CHRIST cannot forgive… Except for Denial of God Himself. It remains Christ who forgives the sins with the priest permission.
Curry Blake - Authority in Christ for Healing VS patrick j miron---Because the CC is the ONLY Church and only set of Faith beliefs given by God,
what is the authority
2nd. Peter 1: 16-21 “You will do well to pay attention to this as to a lamp shining in a dark place, until the day dawns and the morning star rises in your hearts. First of all you must understand this, that no prophecy of scripture is a matter of one's own interpretation,
unless patrick j miron gives you permission
because no prophecy ever came by the impulse of man, but men moved by the Holy Spirit spoke from God.”
[See above John 20:20-23, and this: Matt. 16: 18-19]
“And I tell you, you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the powers of death shall not prevail against it.
I [Jesus] will give you {Peter} [SINGULAR] the keys of the kingdom of heaven,
and whatever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven
, and whatever you loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven."
And passed to other Apostles and therefore the CC in
Matt. 18:18 “Truly, I say to you, whatever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven,
and whatever you loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.”
These are also from the same Catechism.
So my friends, do you belief mortal man;
Thomas or Jesus Christ who is the God who will Judge us?
And actually we DO NOT claim to “dispense salvation”. What we do claim, and what is biblically provable is that the Bible and logic, supported by secular history all confirm and affirm t
that all Salvation MUST FLOW THROUGH the Catholic Church.
WHY?
Because the CC is the ONLY Church and only set of Faith beliefs given by God,
and therefore the singular truth. AMEN! And because it is God’s Will and God’s own plan.
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